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Demonien MathHammeria

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Heipä hei kaikille kultamussuille! Uusi kirja ilmestyi ja kettu syöksyi samantien kimppuun kuin Khorne Tomb Kingien kallopyörteeseen. Koska olen tänään laiskalla päällä, niin en jaksa koko pakettia suomentaa, numerothan ne tässä on se pääasia *virne*. Nämä kaikki ovat vain viitteellisiä tietoja, matematiikka ei paljasta kaikkea jne, joten älkää ottako tätä taas absoluuttisina totuuksina yms. Tästäpä tätä lähtee kuitenkin~~
CORE UNITS

I will examine each unit individually with their upgrades against each of following example units. All attacking daemons are considered to be in horde formation with excactly 30 models attacking with no champion or musician.

All these results are just guiding, not absolute facts; All special skills cannot be shown in numbers, so some units might be more powerful than the numbers show. Also bear in mind that cost effectiveness is reduced if you are not in horde formation or have more than 30 models. As said earlier, these are just guiding results.

I will grade units using 2 factors, Kills and Cost effectiveness (CE) which is calculated by dividing kills by the points cost of the unit. Bigger number indicates better worth to your units. Kills are included because in many cases certain number of kills can actually wipe whole unit of opponents away.

With Each Locus effect heralds cost is added to the CE, because otherwise results would be distorted. Bear in mind that this usually raises cost of the unit over 100pts and adds heralds attacks to kills. None of naked heralds increase CE so they are not included here.

Strongest choice considering kills and CE is always colored to help finding the best unit for each situation.

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Ws2 T3 As- (goblin/gnoblar)
Bloodletters: 13,33 kills, CE 0,032
Charging: 16,67 kills, CE 0,040
Locus of Wrath: 19,41 kills, CE 0,033
Charging: 23,70 kills, CE 0,040
Locus of Fury: 19,56 kills, CE 0,034
Charging: 23,89 kills, CE 0,041

Pink Horrors: 10 kills, CE 0,026
With 6 Blue Horrors: 12 kills, CE 0,031
*All of the below results are counted with blue horrors casualities included.
Locus of Transmogrification: 14,33 kills, CE 0,028
Locus of Change S1: 5,44 kills, CE 0,011
Locus of Change S2: 8,44 kills, CE 0,022
Locus of Change S3: 12,33 kills, CE 0,024 (Heralds attacks are counted here to the result)
Locus of Change S4: 15,78 kills, CE 0,031
Locus of Change S5: 19,22 kills, CE 0,037
Locus of Change S6: 19,22 kills, CE 0,037

Plaguebearers: 15 kills, CE 0,038
Locus of Virulence: 17,94 kills, CE 0,035
Locus of Contagion: 19,81 kills, CE 0,037

Daemonettes: 13,33 kills, CE 0,040
Locus of Swiftness: 19,11 kills, CE 0,041

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Ws3 T3 As6+ (Basic human)
Bloodletters: 13,33 kills, CE 0,032
Charging: 16,67 kills, CE 0,040
Locus of Wrath: 19,41 kills, CE 0,033
Charging: 23,70 kills, CE 0,040
Locus of Fury: 19,56 kills, CE 0,034
Charging: 23,89 kills, CE 0,041

Pink Horrors: 6,25 kills, CE 0,016
With 6 Blue Horrors: 7,92 kills, CE 0,020
*All of the below results are counted with blue horrors casualities included.
Locus of Transmogrification: 9,79 kills, CE 0,019
Locus of Change S1: 2,96 kills, CE 0,006
Locus of Change S2: 5,11 kills, CE 0,010
Locus of Change S3: 8,13 kills, CE 0,016 (Heralds attacks are counted here to the result)
Locus of Change S4: 12 kills, CE 0,023
Locus of Change S5: 14,58 kills, CE 0,028
Locus of Change S6: 14,58 kills, CE 0,028

Plaguebearers: 11,67 kills, CE 0,030
Locus of Virulence: 14,72 kills, CE 0,028
Locus of Contagion: 16,58 kills, CE 0,031

Daemonettes: 13,33 kills, CE 0,040
Locus of Swiftness: 19,11 kills, CE 0,041

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Ws4 T3 As5+ (Elf Spearman)
Bloodletters: 11,11 kills, CE 0,026
Charging: 16,67 kills, CE 0,040
Locus of Wrath: 16,54 kills, CE 0,028
Charging: 23,70 kills, CE 0,040
Locus of Fury: 16,67 kills, CE 0,029
Charging: 23,89 kills, CE 0,041

Pink Horrors: 5 kills, CE 0,013
With 6 Blue Horrors: 6,33 kills, CE 0,016
*All of the below results are counted with blue horrors casualities included.
Locus of Transmogrification: 7,83 kills, CE 0,016
Locus of Change S1: 2,19 kills, CE 0,004
Locus of Change S2: 3,92 kills, CE 0,008
Locus of Change S3: 6,5 kills, CE 0,013 (Heralds attacks are counted here to the result)
Locus of Change S4: 9,94 kills, CE 0,019
Locus of Change S5: 14,25 kills, CE 0,028
Locus of Change S6: 14,25 kills, CE 0,028

Plaguebearers: 9,72 kills, CE 0,025
Locus of Virulence: 12,57 kills, CE 0,024
Locus of Contagion: 14,11 kills, CE 0,027

Daemonettes: 11,11 kills, CE 0,034
Locus of Swiftness: 16,30 kills, CE 0,035

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Ws3 T4 As6+ (Orc)
Bloodletters: 10,00 kills, CE 0,024
Charging: 13,33 kills, CE 0,032
Locus of Wrath: 15,11 kills, CE 0,025
Charging: 19,41 kills, CE 0,033
Locus of Fury: 15,22 kills, CE 0,026
Charging: 19,56 kills, CE 0,034

Pink Horrors: 4,17 kills, CE 0,011
With 6 Blue Horrors: 5 kills, CE 0,013
*All of the below results are counted with blue horrors casualities included.
Locus of Transmogrification: 5,97 kills, CE 0,012
Locus of Change S1: 2,13 kills, CE 0,004
Locus of Change S2: 2,56 kills, CE 0,005
Locus of Change S3: 5,14 kills, CE 0,010 (Heralds attacks are counted here to the result)
Locus of Change S4: 8,58 kills, CE 0,017
Locus of Change S5: 11,17 kills, CE 0,022
Locus of Change S6: 13,75 kills, CE 0,027

Plaguebearers: 10,00 kills, CE 0,026
Locus of Virulence: 13,75 kills, CE 0,026
Locus of Contagion: 13,83 kills, CE 0,026

Daemonettes: 8,89 kills, CE 0,027
Locus of Swiftness: 12,89 kills, CE 0,027

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Ws4 T4 As5+ (Dwarf Warrior)
Bloodletters: 8,89 kills, CE 0,021
Charging: 13,33 kills, CE 0,032
Locus of Wrath: 13,68 kills, CE 0,023
Charging: 19,41 kills, CE 0,033
Locus of Fury: 13,78 kills, CE 0,024
Charging: 19,56 kills, CE 0,034

Pink Horrors: 3,33 kills, CE 0,009
With 6 Blue Horrors: 4 kills, CE 0,010
*All of the below results are counted with blue horrors casualities included.
Locus of Transmogrification: 4,78 kills, CE 0,009
Locus of Change S1: 1,53 kills, CE 0,003
Locus of Change S2: 1,96 kills, CE 0,004
Locus of Change S3: 4,11 kills, CE 0,008 (Heralds attacks are counted here to the result)
Locus of Change S4: 7,13 kills, CE 0,014
Locus of Change S5: 11,00 kills, CE 0,021
Locus of Change S6: 13,58 kills, CE 0,026

Plaguebearers: 8,33 kills, CE 0,021
Locus of Virulence: 11,74 kills, CE 0,023
Locus of Contagion: 11,78 kills, CE 0,022

Daemonettes: 7,41 kills, CE 0,022
Locus of Swiftness: 11,01 kills, CE 0,023

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Ws5 T4 As4+ (Chaos Warrior)
Bloodletters: 5,83 kills, CE 0,014
Charging: 8,75 kills, CE 0,021
Locus of Wrath: 10,68 kills, CE 0,018
Charging: 14,91 kills, CE 0,025
Locus of Fury: 9,81 kills, CE 0,017
Charging: 13,60 kills, CE 0,023

Pink Horrors: 2,5 kills, CE 0,006
With 6 Blue Horrors: 3 kills, CE 0,008
*All of the below results are counted with blue horrors casualities included.
Locus of Transmogrification: 3,58 kills, CE 0,007
Locus of Change S1: 0,93 kills, CE 0,002
Locus of Change S2: 1,36 kills, CE 0,003
Locus of Change S3: 3,08 kills, CE 0,006 (Heralds attacks are counted here to the result)
Locus of Change S4: 5,67 kills, CE 0,011
Locus of Change S5: 9,11 kills, CE 0,018
Locus of Change S6: 13,42 kills, CE 0,026

Plaguebearers: 6,67 kills, CE 0,017
Locus of Virulence: 9,17 kills, CE 0,018
Locus of Contagion: 9,19 kills, CE 0,017

Daemonettes: 4,44 kills, CE 0,013
Locus of Swiftness: 7,69 kills, CE 0,016
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Ws4 T3 As2+ (Knight)
Bloodletters: 6,67 kills, CE 0,016
Charging: 10 kills, CE 0,024
Locus of Wrath: 10,22 kills, CE 0,017
Charging: 14,52 kills, CE 0,024
Locus of Fury: 10,30 kills, CE 0,018
Charging: 14,63 kills, CE 0,025

Pink Horrors: 1,25 kills, CE 0,003
With 6 Blue Horrors: 1,58 kills, CE 0,004
*All of the below results are counted with blue horrors casualities included.
Locus of Transmogrification: 1,96 kills, CE 0,004
Locus of Change S1: 0,90 kills, CE 0,002
Locus of Change S2: 1,19 kills, CE 0,002
Locus of Change S3: 1,63 kills, CE 0,003 (Heralds attacks are counted here to the result)
Locus of Change S4: 3,78 kills, CE 0,007
Locus of Change S5: 6,79 kills, CE 0,013
Locus of Change S6: 8,94 kills, CE 0,017

Plaguebearers: 3,89 kills, CE 0,010
Locus of Virulence: 5,21 kills, CE 0,010
Locus of Contagion: 5,82 kills, CE 0,011

Daemonettes: 4,44 kills, CE 0,013
Locus of Swiftness: 6,74 kills, CE 0,014
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SPECIAL UNITS

I will examine each unit individually with their upgrades against each of following example units. To get kill values represent real combat effectiveness more accurately special units in these calculations cost roughly the same. There is 4 juggers, 8 hounds, 6 flamers, 6 screamers, 6 nurglings, 4 beasts, 12 seekers, 4 fiends, 1 chariot and 20 furies (!) in one rank and without command group.

All these results are just guiding, not absolute facts; All special skills cannot be shown in numbers, so some units might be more powerful than the numbers show and there is room for human errors. Bear in mind that if you use your units in ranked formations, their kill power is less than described here. As said earlier, these are just guiding results.

I will grade units using 2 factors, Kills and Cost effectiveness (CE) which is calculated by dividing kills by the points cost of the unit. Bigger number indicates better worth to your units. Kills are included because in many cases certain number of kills can actually wipe whole unit of opponents away.

With Each Locus effect heralds cost is added to the CE, because otherwise results would be distorted. Bear in mind that this usually raises cost of the unit over 100pts and adds heralds attacks to kills. None of naked heralds increase CE so they are not included here. When herald is added to the unit in these calculations he is considered to be added right next to the models and not replacing anyone.

Strongest choice considering kills and CE is always colored to help finding the best unit for each situation.

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Ws2 T3 As- (goblin/gnoblar)
Bloodcrushers: 11,78 kills, CE 0,045
Charging: 12,22 kills, CE 0,047
Locus of Wrath: 18,31 kills, CE 0,045
Charging: 18,91 kills, CE 0,046
Locus of Fury: 20,50 kills, CE 0,044
Charging: 21,39 kills, CE 0,046

Flesh Hounds: 7,11 kills, CE 0,030
Charging: 8,89 kills, CE 0,037
Locus of Wrath: 13,61 kills, CE 0,029
Charging: 15,98 kills, CE 0,034
Locus of Fury: 14,37 kills, CE 0,033
Charging: 17,04 kills, CE 0,039
*With Locus of Fury hounds have Karanak in the unit, with Wrath they have Khorne herald with Juggernaut with them. Karanak has hatred.

Flamers: 4,00 kills, CE 0,019
Shooting: 9,33 kills, CE 0,039
-1 Penalty: 7,0 kills, CE 0,029
-2 Penalty: 4,67 kills, CE 0,019
-3 Penalty: 2,33 kills, CE 0,010

Screamers: 8,00 kills, CE 0,033
Slashing attacks: 4,00 kills, CE 0,017

Nurglings: 8,00 kills, CE 0,033

Beasts: 9,67 kills, CE 0,040
Locus of Contagion: 12,78 kills, CE 0,034
Locus of Virulence: 10,44 kills, CE 0,028

Seekers: 13,00 kills, CE 0,054
Locus of Swiftnes: 18,92 kills, CE 0,047

Fiends: 9,78 kills, CE 0,038
Locus of Swiftnes: 12,15 kills, CE 0,029

Seeker Chariot: 2,17 kills, CE 0,020
Charging: 5,17 kills, CE 0,047

Furies of Chaos: 8,89 kills, CE 0,037
Mark of Khorne & Charging: 11,11 kills, CE 0,040

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Ws3 T3 As6+ (Basic human)
Bloodcrushers: 11,78 kills, CE 0,045
Charging: 12,22 kills, CE 0,047
Locus of Wrath: 18,31 kills, CE 0,045
Charging: 18,91 kills, CE 0,046
Locus of Fury: 20,50 kills, CE 0,044
Charging: 21,39 kills, CE 0,046

Flesh Hounds: 7,11 kills, CE 0,030
Charging: 8,89 kills, CE 0,037
Locus of Wrath: 13,61 kills, CE 0,029
Charging: 15,98 kills, CE 0,034
Locus of Fury: 14,37 kills, CE 0,033
Charging: 17,04 kills, CE 0,039
*With Locus of Fury hounds have Karanak in the unit, with Wrath they have Khorne herald with Juggernaut with them. Karanak has hatred.

Flamers: 4,00 kills, CE 0,019
Shooting: 9,33 kills, CE 0,039
-1 Penalty: 7,0 kills, CE 0,029
-2 Penalty: 4,67 kills, CE 0,019
-3 Penalty: 2,33 kills, CE 0,010

Screamers: 8,00 kills, CE 0,033
Slashing attacks: 4,00 kills, CE 0,017

Nurglings: 5,00 kills, CE 0,021

Beasts: 8,11 kills, CE 0,034
Locus of Contagion: 10,19 kills, CE 0,027
Locus of Virulence: 8,89 kills, CE 0,024

Seekers: 12,00 kills, CE 0,050
Locus of Swiftnes: 17,92 kills, CE 0,044

Fiends: 9,78 kills, CE 0,038
Locus of Swiftnes: 12,15 kills, CE 0,029

Seeker Chariot: 2,00 kills, CE 0,018
Charging: 5,00 kills, CE 0,045

Furies of Chaos: 8,89 kills, CE 0,037
Mark of Khorne & Charging: 11,11 kills, CE 0,040

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Ws4 T3 As5+ (Elf Spearman)
Bloodcrushers: 11,56 kills, CE 0,044
Charging: 12,22 kills, CE 0,047
Locus of Wrath: 18,57 kills, CE 0,038
Charging: 19,46 kills, CE 0,040
Locus of Fury: 20,80 kills, CE 0,038
Charging: 22,13 kills, CE 0,041

Flesh Hounds: 5,93 kills, CE 0,025
Charging: 8,89 kills, CE 0,037
Locus of Wrath: 12,13 kills, CE 0,026
Charging: 15,98 kills, CE 0,034
Locus of Fury: 11,98 kills, CE 0,028
Charging: 17,04 kills, CE 0,039
*With Locus of Fury hounds have Karanak in the unit, with Wrath they have Khorne herald with Juggernaut with them. Karanak has hatred.

Flamers: 3,33 kills, CE 0,016
Shooting: 7,78 kills, CE 0,032
-1 Penalty: 5,83 kills, CE 0,024
-2 Penalty: 3,89 kills, CE 0,016
-3 Penalty: 1,94 kills, CE 0,008

Screamers: 5,00 kills, CE 0,021
Slashing attacks: 3,33 kills, CE 0,014

Nurglings: 4,00 kills, CE 0,017

Beasts: 6,76 kills, CE 0,028
Locus of Contagion: 8,49 kills, CE 0,022
Locus of Virulence: 7,41 kills, CE 0,020

Seekers: 10,00 kills, CE 0,042
Locus of Swiftnes: 15,30 kills, CE 0,038

Fiends: 9,78 kills, CE 0,038
Locus of Swiftnes: 12,15 kills, CE 0,029

Seeker Chariot: 1,67 kills, CE 0,015
Charging: 4,67 kills, CE 0,042

Furies of Chaos: 5,56 kills, CE 0,023
Mark of Khorne & Charging: 8,33 kills, CE 0,030
Mark of Slaanesh: 6,67 kills, CE 0,024

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Ws3 T4 As6+ (Orc)
Bloodcrushers: 9,33 kills, CE 0,036
Charging: 11,78 kills, CE 0,045
Locus of Wrath: 14,89 kills, CE 0,031
Charging: 18,87 kills, CE 0,039
Locus of Fury: 16,81 kills, CE 0,031
Charging: 21,24 kills, CE 0,039

Flesh Hounds: 5,33 kills, CE 0,022
Charging: 7,11 kills, CE 0,030
Locus of Wrath: 10,30 kills, CE 0,022
Charging: 13,61 kills, CE 0,029
Locus of Fury: 10,96 kills, CE 0,025
Charging: 14,37 kills, CE 0,033
*With Locus of Fury hounds have Karanak in the unit, with Wrath they have Khorne herald with Juggernaut with them. Karanak has hatred.

Flamers: 3,00 kills, CE 0,014
Shooting: 7,00 kills, CE 0,029
-1 Penalty: 5,25 kills, CE 0,022
-2 Penalty: 3,50 kills, CE 0,015
-3 Penalty: 1,75 kills, CE 0,007

Screamers: 4,50 kills, CE 0,019
Slashing attacks: 3,00 kills, CE 0,013

Nurglings: 3,33 kills, CE 0,014

Beasts: 6,67 kills, CE 0,028
Locus of Contagion: 7,83 kills, CE 0,021
Locus of Virulence: 7,83 kills, CE 0,021

Seekers: 8,67 kills, CE 0,036
Locus of Swiftnes: 12,76 kills, CE 0,032

Fiends: 7,33 kills, CE 0,028
Locus of Swiftnes: 9,11 kills, CE 0,021

Seeker Chariot: 1,44 kills, CE 0,013
Charging: 3,69 kills, CE 0,034

Furies of Chaos: 5,00 kills, CE 0,021
Mark of Khorne & Charging: 6,67 kills, CE 0,024
Mark of Slaanesh: 5,00 kills, CE 0,018

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Ws4 T4 As5+ (Dwarf Warrior)
Bloodcrushers: 9,19 kills, CE 0,035
Charging: 11,78 kills, CE 0,045
Locus of Wrath: 14,69 kills, CE 0,030
Charging: 18,87 kills, CE 0,039
Locus of Fury: 16,52 kills, CE 0,030
Charging: 21,24 kills, CE 0,039

Flesh Hounds: 4,44 kills, CE 0,019
Charging: 7,11 kills, CE 0,030
Locus of Wrath: 9,21 kills, CE 0,020
Charging: 13,61 kills, CE 0,029
Locus of Fury: 9,14 kills, CE 0,021
Charging: 14,37 kills, CE 0,033
*With Locus of Fury hounds have Karanak in the unit, with Wrath they have Khorne herald with Juggernaut with them. Karanak has hatred.

Flamers: 2,15 kills, CE 0,012
Shooting: 5,83 kills, CE 0,024
-1 Penalty: 4,38 kills, CE 0,018
-2 Penalty: 2,92 kills, CE 0,012
-3 Penalty: 1,46 kills, CE 0,006

Screamers: 3,75 kills, CE 0,016
Slashing attacks: 2,50 kills, CE 0,010

Nurglings: 2,67 kills, CE 0,011

Beasts: 5,56 kills, CE 0,023
Locus of Contagion: 6,53 kills, CE 0,017
Locus of Virulence: 6,53 kills, CE 0,018

Seekers: 7,22 kills, CE 0,030
Locus of Swiftnes: 10,90 kills, CE 0,027

Fiends: 7,33 kills, CE 0,028
Locus of Swiftnes: 9,11 kills, CE 0,021

Seeker Chariot: 1,20 kills, CE 0,011
Charging: 3,45 kills, CE 0,031

Furies of Chaos: 4,17 kills, CE 0,017
Mark of Khorne & Charging: 6,67 kills, CE 0,024
Mark of Slaanesh: 5,00 kills, CE 0,018

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Ws5 T4 As4+ (Chaos Warrior)
Bloodcrushers: 6,33 kills, CE 0,024
Charging: 9,50 kills, CE 0,037
Locus of Wrath: 10,92 kills, CE 0,023
Charging: 16,39 kills, CE 0,034
Locus of Fury: 11,69 kills, CE 0,024
Charging: 17,38 kills, CE 0,032

Flesh Hounds: 2,67 kills, CE 0,011
Charging: 4,44 kills, CE 0,019
Locus of Wrath: 6,50 kills, CE 0,014
Charging: 10,42 kills, CE 0,022
Locus of Fury: 5,67 kills, CE 0,013
Charging: 9,27 kills, CE 0,021
*With Locus of Fury hounds have Karanak in the unit, with Wrath they have Khorne herald with Juggernaut with them. Karanak has hatred.

Flamers: 1,33 kills, CE 0,006
Shooting: 4,67 kills, CE 0,019
-1 Penalty: 3,50 kills, CE 0,015
-2 Penalty: 2,33 kills, CE 0,010
-3 Penalty: 1,17 kills, CE 0,005

Screamers: 3,00 kills, CE 0,013
Slashing attacks: 2,00 kills, CE 0,008

Nurglings: 2,00 kills, CE 0,008

Beasts: 4,44 kills, CE 0,019
Locus of Contagion: 5,22 kills, CE 0,014
Locus of Virulence: 5,22 kills, CE 0,014

Seekers: 4,89 kills, CE 0,020
Locus of Swiftnes: 8,10 kills, CE 0,020

Fiends: 5,00 kills, CE 0,019
Locus of Swiftnes: 6,67 kills, CE 0,016

Seeker Chariot: 0,81 kills, CE 0,007
Charging: 2,69 kills, CE 0,024

Furies of Chaos: 3,33 kills, CE 0,014
Mark of Khorne & Charging: 5,56 kills, CE 0,020
Mark of Slaanesh: 4,17 kills, CE 0,015

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Ws4 T3 As2+ (Knight)
Bloodcrushers: 5,89 kills, CE 0,023
Charging: 8,00 kills, CE 0,031
Locus of Wrath: 9,32 kills, CE 0,023
Charging: 12,52 kills, CE 0,031
Locus of Fury: 10,47 kills, CE 0,022
Charging: 14,11 kills, CE 0,030

Flesh Hounds: 2,37 kills, CE 0,010
Charging: 4,44 kills, CE 0,019
Locus of Wrath: 5,55 kills, CE 0,012
Charging: 8,93 kills, CE 0,019
Locus of Fury: 4,79 kills, CE 0,011
Charging: 8,52 kills, CE 0,020
*With Locus of Fury hounds have Karanak in the unit, with Wrath they have Khorne herald with Juggernaut with them. Karanak has hatred.

Flamers: 1,33 kills, CE 0,006
Shooting: 3,11 kills, CE 0,013
-1 Penalty: 2,33 kills, CE 0,010
-2 Penalty: 1,56 kills, CE 0,006
-3 Penalty: 0,78 kills, CE 0,003

Screamers: 2,00 kills, CE 0,008
Slashing attacks: 1,33 kills, CE 0,006

Nurglings: 1,00 kills, CE 0,004

Beasts: 2,70 kills, CE 0,011
Locus of Contagion: 3,40 kills, CE 0,009
Locus of Virulence: 2,96 kills, CE 0,008

Seekers: 4,00 kills, CE 0,017
Locus of Swiftnes: 6,34 kills, CE 0,016

Fiends: 4,89 kills, CE 0,019
Locus of Swiftnes: 6,07 kills, CE 0,014

Seeker Chariot: 0,67 kills, CE 0,006
Charging: 2,17 kills, CE 0,020

Furies of Chaos: 2,22 kills, CE 0,009
Mark of Khorne & Charging: 4,17 kills, CE 0,015
Mark of Slaanesh: 3,33 kills, CE 0,012
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Re: Demonien MathHammeria

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RARE UNITS

I will examine each unit individually with their upgrades against each of the following example units. In this case kill values might not be accurately compared to each other choices as points of units vary so much, so instead one should view the cost effectiveness instead.

All these results are just guiding, not absolute facts; All special skills cannot be shown in numbers, so some units might be more powerful than the numbers show and there is room for human errors. Bear in mind that if you use your units in ranked formations, their kill power is less than described here. As said earlier, these are just guiding results.

I will grade units using 2 factors, Kills and Cost effectiveness (CE) which is calculated by dividing kills by the points cost of the unit. Bigger number indicates better worth to your units. Kills are included because in many cases certain number of kills can actually wipe whole unit of opponents away.

Strongest choice considering kills and CE is always colored to help finding the best unit for each situation. With rare choices I have colored 2 of the best values, one for shooting and one for melee as most of the rare units have ability to shoot.

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Ws2 T3 As- (goblin/gnoblar)
Skull Cannon: 2,56 kills, CE 0,019
Charging: 6,53 kills, CE 0,048
Cannon (5 hits): 4,17 kills, CE 0,031

Burning Chariot: 4,33 kills, CE 0,029
Charging: 7,33 kills, CE 0,049
Pink fire (15 hits): 11,00 kills, CE 0,073
Pink fire (10 hits): 7,67 kills, CE 0,051
Pink fire (5 hits): 4,33 kills, CE 0,029
Blue Fire: 4,33 kills, CE 0,029
*Pink fires S in these calculations is 4. Blue fires S in these calculations is 7 and it shoots 6 times.

Soul Grinder: 5,14 kills, CE 0,021
Charging & Khorne mark: 5,14 kills, CE 0,020
Mark of Slaanesh: 5,14 kills, CE 0,021
Harvester Cannon: 2,50 kills, CE 0,010
Baleful torrents (15 hits): 12,50 kills, CE 0,042
Baleful torrents (10 hits): 8,33 kills, CE 0,028
Baleful torrents (5 hits): 4,17 kills, CE 0,014
Phlegm Bombardment (15 hits): 8,33 kills, CE 0,028
Phlegm Bombardment (10 hits): 8,83 kills, CE 0,019
Phlegm Bombardment (5 hits): 3,33 kills, CE 0,011
Warp Gaze: 0,42 kills, CE 0,001
*Harvester cannon shoots 6 times in these calculations.

Exalted Seeker Chariot: 5,00 kills, CE 0,023
Charging: 8,00 kills, CE 0,036

HellFlayer: 3,50 kills, CE 0,027
Charging: 7,50 kills, CE 0,058

Plague Drones: 10,00 kills, CE 0,045
Plague Proboscis: 10,67 kills, CE 0,044
Venom Sting: 10,89 kills, CE 0,042
Death's Heads: 1,56 kills, CE 0,006

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Ws3 T3 As6+ (Basic human)
Skull Cannon: 2,56 kills, CE 0,019
Charging: 6,53 kills, CE 0,048
Cannon (5 hits): 4,17 kills, CE 0,031

Burning Chariot: 3,67 kills, CE 0,024
Charging: 6,67 kills, CE 0,044
Pink fire (15 hits): 11,00 kills, CE 0,073
Pink fire (10 hits): 7,67 kills, CE 0,051
Pink fire (5 hits): 4,33 kills, CE 0,029
Blue Fire: 4,33 kills, CE 0,029
*Pink fires S in these calculations is 4. Blue fires S in these calculations is 7 and it shoots 6 times.

Soul Grinder: 4,58 kills, CE 0,018
Charging & Khorne mark: 4,58 kills, CE 0,018
Mark of Slaanesh: 4,58 kills, CE 0,018
Harvester Cannon: 2,50 kills, CE 0,010
Baleful torrents (15 hits): 12,50 kills, CE 0,042
Baleful torrents (10 hits): 8,33 kills, CE 0,028
Baleful torrents (5 hits): 4,17 kills, CE 0,014
Phlegm Bombardment (15 hits): 7,08 kills, CE 0,024
Phlegm Bombardment (10 hits): 5,00 kills, CE 0,017
Phlegm Bombardment (5 hits): 2,92 kills, CE 0,010
Warp Gaze: 0,42 kills, CE 0,001
*Harvester cannon shoots 6 times in these calculations.

Exalted Seeker Chariot: 4,67 kills, CE 0,021
Charging: 7,67 kills, CE 0,035

HellFlayer: 3,33 kills, CE 0,026
Charging: 7,33 kills, CE 0,056

Plague Drones: 8,22 kills, CE 0,037
Plague Proboscis: 8,89 kills, CE 0,037
Venom Sting: 8,89 kills, CE 0,034
Death's Heads: 1,56 kills, CE 0,006

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Ws4 T3 As5+ (Elf Spearman)
Skull Cannon: 2,44 kills, CE 0,018
Charging: 6,53 kills, CE 0,048
Cannon (5 hits): 4,17 kills, CE 0,031

Burning Chariot: 1,94 kills, CE 0,013
Charging: 4,44 kills, CE 0,030
Pink fire (15 hits): 9,33 kills, CE 0,062
Pink fire (10 hits): 6,56 kills, CE 0,044
Pink fire (5 hits): 3,78 kills, CE 0,025
Blue Fire: 4,33 kills, CE 0,029
*Pink fires S in these calculations is 4. Blue fires S in these calculations is 7 and it shoots 6 times.

Soul Grinder: 4,58 kills, CE 0,018
Charging & Khorne mark: 4,58 kills, CE 0,018
Mark of Slaanesh: 4,58 kills, CE 0,018
Harvester Cannon: 2,50 kills, CE 0,010
Baleful torrents (15 hits): 12,50 kills, CE 0,042
Baleful torrents (10 hits): 8,33 kills, CE 0,028
Baleful torrents (5 hits): 4,17 kills, CE 0,014
Phlegm Bombardment (15 hits): 5,83 kills, CE 0,019
Phlegm Bombardment (10 hits): 4,17 kills, CE 0,014
Phlegm Bombardment (5 hits): 2,50 kills, CE 0,008
Warp Gaze: 0,42 kills, CE 0,001
*Harvester cannon shoots 6 times in these calculations.

Exalted Seeker Chariot: 3,89 kills, CE 0,018
Charging: 6,89 kills, CE 0,031

HellFlayer: 2,78 kills, CE 0,021
Charging: 6,61 kills, CE 0,051

Plague Drones: 6,85 kills, CE 0,031
Plague Proboscis: 7,41 kills, CE 0,031
Venom Sting: 7,41 kills, CE 0,028
Death's Heads: 1,30 kills, CE 0,005

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Ws3 T4 As6+ (Orc)
Skull Cannon: 2,00 kills, CE 0,015
Charging: 6,31 kills, CE 0,047
Cannon (5 hits): 4,17 kills, CE 0,031

Burning Chariot: 2,00 kills, CE 0,013
Charging: 4,25 kills, CE 0,028
Pink fire (15 hits): 8,83 kills, CE 0,059
Pink fire (10 hits): 6,33 kills, CE 0,042
Pink fire (5 hits): 3,83 kills, CE 0,026
Blue Fire: 4,67 kills, CE 0,031
*Pink fires S in these calculations is 4. Blue fires S in these calculations is 7 and it shoots 6 times.

Soul Grinder: 4,58 kills, CE 0,018
Charging & Khorne mark: 4,58 kills, CE 0,018
Mark of Slaanesh: 4,58 kills, CE 0,018
Harvester Cannon: 2,00 kills, CE 0,008
Baleful torrents (15 hits): 10,00 kills, CE 0,033
Baleful torrents (10 hits): 6,67 kills, CE 0,022
Baleful torrents (5 hits): 3,33 kills, CE 0,011
Phlegm Bombardment (15 hits): 5,00 kills, CE 0,017
Phlegm Bombardment (10 hits): 3,61 kills, CE 0,012
Phlegm Bombardment (5 hits): 2,22 kills, CE 0,007
Warp Gaze: 0,42 kills, CE 0,001
*Harvester cannon shoots 6 times in these calculations.

Exalted Seeker Chariot: 3,33 kills, CE 0,015
Charging: 5,58 kills, CE 0,025

HellFlayer: 2,33 kills, CE 0,018
Charging: 5,08 kills, CE 0,039

Plague Drones: 6,33 kills, CE 0,029
Plague Proboscis: 7,33 kills, CE 0,031
Venom Sting: 7,33 kills, CE 0,028
Death's Heads: 1,33 kills, CE 0,005

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Ws4 T4 As5+ (Dwarf Warrior)
Skull Cannon: 1,93 kills, CE 0,014
Charging: 6,31 kills, CE 0,047
Cannon (5 hits): 4,17 kills, CE 0,031

Burning Chariot: 1,46 kills, CE 0,010
Charging: 3,33 kills, CE 0,022
Pink fire (15 hits): 7,58 kills, CE 0,051
Pink fire (10 hits): 5,50 kills, CE 0,037
Pink fire (5 hits): 3,42 kills, CE 0,023
Blue Fire: 4,67 kills, CE 0,031
*Pink fires S in these calculations is 4. Blue fires S in these calculations is 7 and it shoots 6 times.

Soul Grinder: 4,58 kills, CE 0,018
Charging & Khorne mark: 4,58 kills, CE 0,018
Mark of Slaanesh: 4,58 kills, CE 0,018
Harvester Cannon: 2,00 kills, CE 0,008
Baleful torrents (15 hits): 10,00 kills, CE 0,033
Baleful torrents (10 hits): 6,67 kills, CE 0,022
Baleful torrents (5 hits): 3,33 kills, CE 0,011
Phlegm Bombardment (15 hits): 4,17 kills, CE 0,014
Phlegm Bombardment (10 hits): 3,06 kills, CE 0,010
Phlegm Bombardment (5 hits): 1,94 kills, CE 0,006
Warp Gaze: 0,42 kills, CE 0,001
*Harvester cannon shoots 6 times in these calculations.

Exalted Seeker Chariot: 2,78 kills, CE 0,013
Charging: 5,03 kills, CE 0,023

HellFlayer: 1,94 kills, CE 0,015
Charging: 4,61 kills, CE 0,035

Plague Drones: 5,28 kills, CE 0,024
Plague Proboscis: 6,11 kills, CE 0,025
Venom Sting: 6,11 kills, CE 0,024
Death's Heads: 1,11 kills, CE 0,004

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Ws5 T4 As4+ (Chaos Warrior)
Skull Cannon: 1,22 kills, CE 0,009
Charging: 5,58 kills, CE 0,041
Cannon (5 hits): 4,17 kills, CE 0,031

Burning Chariot: 1,17 kills, CE 0,008
Charging: 2,67 kills, CE 0,018
Pink fire (15 hits): 6,33 kills, CE 0,042
Pink fire (10 hits): 4,67 kills, CE 0,031
Pink fire (5 hits): 3,00 kills, CE 0,020
Blue Fire: 4,67 kills, CE 0,031
*Pink fires S in these calculations is 4. Blue fires S in these calculations is 7 and it shoots 6 times.

Soul Grinder: 4,58 kills, CE 0,018
Charging & Khorne mark: 4,58 kills, CE 0,018
Mark of Slaanesh: 4,58 kills, CE 0,018
Harvester Cannon: 2,00 kills, CE 0,008
Baleful torrents (15 hits): 8,33 kills, CE 0,028
Baleful torrents (10 hits): 5,56 kills, CE 0,019
Baleful torrents (5 hits): 2,78 kills, CE 0,009
Phlegm Bombardment (15 hits): 3,33 kills, CE 0,011
Phlegm Bombardment (10 hits): 2,50 kills, CE 0,008
Phlegm Bombardment (5 hits): 1,67 kills, CE 0,006
Warp Gaze: 0,42 kills, CE 0,001
*Harvester cannon shoots 6 times in these calculations.

Exalted Seeker Chariot: 1,85 kills, CE 0,008
Charging: 3,73 kills, CE 0,017

HellFlayer: 1,26 kills, CE 0,010
Charging: 3,34 kills, CE 0,026

Plague Drones: 4,22 kills, CE 0,019
Plague Proboscis: 4,89 kills, CE 0,020
Venom Sting: 4,89 kills, CE 0,019
Death's Heads: 0,89 kills, CE 0,003

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Ws4 T3 As2+ (Knight)
Skull Cannon: 1,28 kills, CE 0,014
Charging: 4,38 kills, CE 0,032
Cannon (5 hits): 4,17 kills, CE 0,031

Burning Chariot: 0,78 kills, CE 0,005
Charging: 1,78 kills, CE 0,012
Pink fire (15 hits): 4,33 kills, CE 0,029
Pink fire (10 hits): 3,22 kills, CE 0,021
Pink fire (5 hits): 2,11 kills, CE 0,014
Blue Fire: 3,78 kills, CE 0,025
*Pink fires S in these calculations is 4. Blue fires S in these calculations is 7 and it shoots 6 times.

Soul Grinder: 3,06 kills, CE 0,012
Charging & Khorne mark: 3,82 kills, CE 0,015
Mark of Slaanesh: 3,82 kills, CE 0,015
Harvester Cannon: 1,67 kills, CE 0,007
Baleful torrents (15 hits): 6,25 kills, CE 0,021
Baleful torrents (10 hits): 4,17 kills, CE 0,014
Baleful torrents (5 hits): 2,08 kills, CE 0,007
Phlegm Bombardment (15 hits): 2,08 kills, CE 0,007
Phlegm Bombardment (10 hits): 1,67 kills, CE 0,006
Phlegm Bombardment (5 hits): 1,25 kills, CE 0,004
Warp Gaze: 0,42 kills, CE 0,001
*Harvester cannon shoots 6 times in these calculations.

Exalted Seeker Chariot: 1,56 kills, CE 0,007
Charging: 3,06 kills, CE 0,014

HellFlayer: 1,11 kills, CE 0,009
Charging: 2,78 kills, CE 0,021

Plague Drones: 2,74 kills, CE 0,012
Plague Proboscis: 2,96 kills, CE 0,012
Venom Sting: 2,96 kills, CE 0,011
Death's Heads: 0,52 kills, CE 0,002
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