Ja niille jotka eivät tiedä asiasta:
Esimerkki oli nyt Druchii.netistä mutta pääajatus on siis että otetaan 10-12 modellin yksiköitä monta ja yritetään liikumalla hankkia flankki yms. bonukset joilla voitetaan taistelut.The Birth oF MSU
Hi all,
Pretty ambitious title I know but I think I have it. I've been working on tactics for the De for while now even rereading Tuomas Pirinens' classic tactic guide for 4th/5th Ed DE and the Barons offering amongst others.
I also kept reading the intro to our book over and over again wondering if there was some hidden message.
Then I started reading other tactics articles thread etc for all the races and began to notice the same thread running through them all. Everybody talks about ranks, standards and outnumbering till they're blue in the face.
That's when I started thinking about these and whether they were all important. You see in my opinion elite armies work best in small units in most games as they did in history ie Roman cohorts/maniples. What these units had over the opposition in terms of training and morale were lost if only half of the troops were used against the enemy. They were also very manoevrable able to charge through gaps in the enemy lines and take advantage of flanks etc.
I also realised that the traditional 4-5 wide 4 deep strong units were wasting something we have in abundance high Ws and attacks. I made a couple of other decisions including that no unit would have a standard as these are just easy vps. Musos would be of most use to DRs but to no other unit. Every unit would have a champ (except DRs and shades who aren't meant to fight units front on) to meet and issue challenges which can be vital to keeping the unit alive.
Since then I have been experimenting with small unit sizes and so far I have been encouraged by what I have seen and have only suffered a couple of defeats (due to magic and old style salamanders). But I also pulled off some spectacular wins and in the process realised that hordes are actually easy meat to a well structured well handled force.
Firstly, thanks to the Baron who reinforced something I had forgotten - if you can have something happening in every phase. With this philosophy in mind I sat down to create such an army but one that would also be in line with my thinking on small units conforming to 1500 limit of the next tournament I was entering. Firstly I decided that stupidity would play no part in my army so cold one were out. Without the cold ones I could afford to field a noble as my general. At leadership 9 we still have it better then most armies. As a noble he was also cheap and able to be sacrificed if the need arose. He rides into battle on a nice fast dark steed with a GW, HVA and SDC plus the seal of ghrond. I also selected a sorceress with l2 darkstar cloak and lifetaker. These were all my characters, this army would rely on troops to win.
My core troops were straightforward - 2 units of 5 dark riders, rxbws, muso and 2 units of 10 rxbw warriors, sh Champ. I needed more dedicated close combat specialists so added a unit of 10 corsairs with champ, 10 execs with champ and 10 witch elves with champ. To this I added 2 RBTs - never leave home without 2 of these, at least. With the remaining points I purchased a unit of 5 shades. They would be vital to my plans to slow and harass the enemy from turn 1.
With this army I have faced lizards, brets, khemri, empire skaven, O&G, Chaos and a large undead army. I have only suffered the two defeats from more then 20 games. The army has shown great resiience and is able to pull off some amazing feats because it can quite simply move past units LOS, through gaps and create tactical headaches for the opponent as every charge seems to be supported by a flank charge. Concentrated shooting whittle enemy units down to be picked off by the combat optimised units.
I also discovered something that should've been obvious to everyone but we are all hung up on ranks and standards. Do the maths on this
In a game on the weekend 10 Witchelves with champ (no witchbrew) fought 25 skellies and 25 zombies as above and within 2 rounds of combat they were through into the rear of the enemy.
Combining this tactic with what I have dicovered about small units has led to an army that has really got me back into Druchii.
Give it a try. This is where tactics will actually work. Get the timing right and you'll be surpised at what can be achieved.
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MSU Beginners Guide
Disclaimer:
Its something I was thinking about for a long time.
It is surely not totally my idea, but its a fruit of all Druchii (and not only) players work I have gathered and compiled. Its all based on observation I have made during THE REVISION PLAYTESTING and casual games against varios opponents. Some may say its BASIC, because we create our armies with intuition. But some things should be pointed.
I hope for YOUR input and help with improving this tactic.
Prologue:
While MSU is great tactics against hordes and low stats armies (such as Orcs and Goblins and Skaven) it still lack the power to deal with hard enemies (like Chaos or Dwarfs). Its because the higher profiles of those enemies. Im sure you have noticed that Chaos Warriors bounce off two units of 10 strong DE spearelves units with ease even despite the flank charge. Same applies to Iron Breakers and other elite infantries. Of course you can always try to take them out with your Heavy Cavalery, but its not always possible. That is why I want to make UNIVERSAL composition rules for units that will still allow the full freedom of army building.
The RIGHT UNIT NUMBERS.
Content:
What I mean by Right Unit Numbers?
Right number of units on board.
Right number of models in unit.
Right number of rows.
A right balance between those numbers will lead to perfect army composition.
To maximize army performance we usulay tweak the whole army against opponent we expect to play. But this is imposible while playing a turnament play. We have to compile a STATIC ROOSTER that must work against all armies we meet on the battlefield. Only thing we can change is army setup and row numbers (as they are not specified in the rooster). So lets choose the best nuber of models and rows in unit as the number of units itself will depend on a tactic you choose. Remember that we should use our skills (stats) against weaker opponents (thats why we expand frontage) and we use numbers against Elites (thats when we increase the ranks number).
Itse ajattelin yrittää tätä VC:llä. Lista koostuisi:
Lordistä tai countista jolla wolf form, Aura of dark majesty, Ring of the night ja book of arkhan,
kahdesta Neccestä,
3 susiporukasta,
2 bansheestä,
spiriteistä,
1-2 porukkaa fell batteja,
2 porukkaa ghouleja,
2*16 GG:tä ja
n. 4*10 porukkaa lurkkeja.
Voisiko tämä toimia? Entäs muut armeijat, onko kokemusta (joilla kuin JarLozilla joka muistetaan MSU Slayereistään
) ?
