Grey Knights

[Morhgoz]

Since the last thread was closed, and Marshal Augustine has been nice enough to release a large number of new information, I'm collating it here for everyone to browse. If you have questions for Marshal Augustine, please direct them here.

Bestial Fury also contributed to several of the rumors as well, so give him a bit of thanks too!

A guy named Dagmire over at BolS has contributed several of the rumors seen here.

Note: Take what is and is not here with a grain of salt. I have been posting exactly as rumor mongers have been saying, and excluding anything that is not explicitly stated. This means that units may or may not have grenades, pistols or other weapons as standard. I'm simply listing anything that has been confirmed, regardless of how "obvious" wargear may be.

Commissar Ciaphas Cain at the B&C put out the rumors in green.
I will update as I can.

GK Rumor Summary

Army Wide Rules:
Aegis: Psykers targeting a squad with Aegis suffer -1 Ld. Psykers within 12" of a dreadnought with Reinforced Aegis suffer -4 Ld.
And They Shall Know No Fear
Combat Squads
Psyker Pilots
Brotherhood of Psykers
Psyker Mastery Levels: Character can use 1 psychic power per turn for each level (so 2 powers per turn at level 2).
Preferred Enemy: Demons

Wargear:
Nemesis Weapons, as far as I know are Force Weapons. HOWEVER, because of how Brotherhood of Psykers works (A unit casts a psychic power as a singular entity) I believe this means that only one weapon can become a Force Weapon per turn (If you so choose to use it over Hammerhand).


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The Perfect Warrior: In the assault phase, after the move but before the hits, the Brotherhood Champ MUST select a stance from the following list:

-Sword Storm - The BC makes an attack on all models in B2B contact with him (But he doesn't get the bonus for charging)

-Blade Shield - Can't attack, but gets to reroll ALL failed saves until the end of the phase

-Rapier Strike - Champ makes D3 (Or D3+1 if he charged) attacks at I10 that MUST be directed at an MC or Independent Character in B2B contact.
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Psycannon: Str 7 AP 4 36" Assault 2/Heavy 4, Rending
Incinerator: Str 5 AP 4 Template, Rending
Personal Teleporter: Unit can move as though they have a jump pack. Once per game, the unit may move 30", but may not assault afterwards.
Nemesis Halberd: +1 Initiative
Nemesis Daemonhammer: +1 Strength
Nemesis Falchions: Force Lightning Claws (come in pairs only).
Nemesis Warding Stave: Power weapon that conveys a 2++ Invulnerable save. (I know. Madness.) They're 20-25 points per depending on the squad.
Daemonhammer: This entry confuses me. There's both a Nemesis Daemonhammer and a regular Daemonhammer, but as far as I know, this one is a Thunderhammer with Daemonbane.
Psyk-Out grenades: reduce morale of the unit they attack, I believe, but that one is the one i'm the most unsure on.
Storm Bolter: As normal, but counts as a pistol in close combat (additional close combat weapon).
Psybolts: May ignore invulnerable saves.


Psychic Powers:
Hammer Hand: +1 strength in Close Combat
Warp Quake: Any deepstriking unit that lands within 12" suffers automatic mishap.
Holocaust: S5 AP - Large Blast 12"
Quicksilver: Unit becomes Initiative 10
Warp-Rift: Template that auto removes models from play
The Summoning: A single friendly unit that is anywhere on the table is placed within 6" of the librarian and counts as deepstriking.
Smite: As C:SM
Might of Titan: Beginning of librarians assault phase. Unit within 6" gains +1 str and extra D6 armour pen vs vehicles. Bonus is cumulative with hammerhand.
The Shrouding: Opponents shooting phase. All units within 6" gain stealth (minimum 5+ cover in the open).
Mind Blades: Start of any assault phase. One enemy unit within 6" loses 1 toughness for the rest of the assault phase.
Vortex of Doom: As C:SM
Sanctury: Enemy assault phase. Enemy units wishing to assault any Grey Knight within 12" of librarian must make a difficult AND dangerous terrain test.
Psychic Communion (Grandmaster and Captain only): Take a psychic test. If passed, you may modify any reserve rolls by + or -1.
Heroic Sacrafice (Champion only): During any assault phase and when the "chaplain" dies. If the psychic test is passed, make one attack against any one model that is in base to base with the champion. If the attack hits, the model is removed as a casualty with no saves. If it misses, there is no effect.
Cleansing Flame (Purifiers only): Start of any assault phase. All enemy models that are part of the same assault suffer a wound on a 4+ before any blows are struck with saving throws allowed. Casualties count towards combat resolution.
Astral Aim (Purgation Squad only): Shooting Phase. Unit and attached characters may fire at any unit in range and regardless of line of sight. Target automatically gets a 4+ cover save that cannot be modified.
Reconstruction (techmarines only): Beginning of techmarine's movement. Re-roll any repair roll.
Fortitude (Vehicle only): At the start of Grey Knight player's turn, removes any shaken or stunned results.
Zone of Banishment(Captain Stern only): During Stern's assault phase. All models (friend and foe, but NOT stern) within 6" make a strength test or are removed from play. Demons must re-roll successful tests.


Grey Knight Retinue:

Apothicary: ? BS ? S ? T ? W ? I ? A ? Ld ? Sv ? 75 Points
Wargear: Reducter, Narthecium
Options: ?
Special Rules: Feel No Pain.


HQ
Special Characters:
Lord Draigo: WS 7 BS 6 S 5 T 5 W 4 I 5 A 5 Ld 10 Sv 2+ Points 275
Wargear: Titan Sword (str 10 vs demons and psykers), Storm Shield, Frag, Krak, Psyk-out grenades
Options: ?
Special Rules: Lord of Titan (take Paladins as troops), Psychic Mastery 2, Eternal Warrior
Psychic Powers: Hammer Hand, Psychic Communion, Cleansing Flame

Grand Master Mordrack: WS 6 BS 6 S 4 T 4 W 4 I 5 A 4 Ld 10 Sv 2+ Points Storm Raven cost
Wargear: ?
Options: ?
Special Rules: Deepstrike on first turn, D3 abilities given to squads
Ghost Knights - Terminator retinue that increases in size with each wound the character takes.

Brother Captain Stern: WS ? BS ? S ? T ? W ? I ? A ? Ld ? Sv ? Points ?
Wargear: ?
Options: ?
Special Rules: Psychic Mastery 2
Psychic Powers: Hammer Hand, Zone of Banishment, Psychic Communion.

Castellan Crowe: WS ? BS ? S ? T ? W ? I ? A ? Ld ? Sv ? Points ?
Wargear: ?
Options: ?
Special Rules: Psychic Mastery 1, The Perfect Warrior
Psychic Powers: Hammer Hand, Heroic Sacrifice, Cleansing Flame

Inquisitor Corteaz: WS ? BS ? S ? T ? W ? I ? A ? Ld ? Sv ? Points 100
Wargear: ?
Options: ?
Special Rules: Psychic Mastery 2, Henchmen may be taken as troops
Psychic Powers: Hammer Hand, Sanctuary, Mind Blades

Inquisitor Karamazov - Witch Hunter
Inquisitor Valeria - Xenos Hunter

Standard:
Grand Master: ?
Wargear: Terminator Armor
Options: Psycannon, Incinerator, Psilencer, Servo Skulls, Blind Grenades, Meltabombs, Digi weapons, Psybolt ammo, empyrean brain mines, psychostroke or rad grenades, orbital strike relay, master craft any weapon.
Special Rules:
Psyker Level 1
Make Paladins troops.
Pick D3 Units and give them a special rule:
1) Makes them scoring (kinda neat for dread and or elite paladins)
2) Makes them re roll 1s to wound all game
3) Makes them have counter attack USR.
4) Makes them Scout
Note: All these units are affected by the one choice.
Psychic Powers: Hammerhand, Psychic Communion

Brother Captain: WS ? BS ? S ? T ? W ? I ? A ? Ld ? Sv ? Points ?
Wargear: Terminator Armor
Options: Psycannon, Incinerator, Psilencer, Servo Skulls, Blind Grenades, Meltabombs, Digi weapons, Psybolt ammo, empyrean brain mines, psychostroke or rad grenades, orbital strike relay, master craft any weapon.
Special Rules: Psyker level 1.
Psychic Powers: Hammer Hand, Psychic Communion.

Brotherhood Champion: WS 7 BS ? S ? T ? W ? I ? A ? Ld ? Sv ? Points ? (chaplain)
Wargear: Terminator Armor
Options: Psycannon, Incinerator, Psilencer, Servo Skulls, Blind Grenades, Meltabombs, Digi weapons, Psybolt ammo, empyrean brain mines, psychostroke or rad grenades, orbital strike relay, master craft any weapon.
Special Rules: Psyker Level 1, The Perfect Warrior
Psychic Powers: Hammerhand, Heroic Sacrafice.

Librarian: WS ? BS ? S ? T ? W ? I ? A ? Ld ? Sv ? 150 Points
Wargear: ?
Options: Upgrade to Psyker Mastery 3 +50 points. Take additional psychic powers for +5 points each.
Special Rules: Psyker Mastery 2
Psychic Powers: Hammer Hand

Ordo Malleus Inquisitor
Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor
Ordo Xenos Inquisitor
Inquisitor: WS 4 BS 4 S 3 T 3 W 3 I 4 A 3 Ld 10 Sv ? 25 Pts
Wargear: Something exactly like a Dijin Blade, Forcefield, enemy takes save vs wound or die (like lucas the trickster)
Options: Psycher Mastery 1?
Special Rules: Stubborn, Independent Character, Henchmen Retinue (3-12)

Inquisitorial Henchmen:
Arco Flagelant: ?
Wargear: Close Combat Weapon
Special Rules: Feel No Pain

Banisher: ?
Wargear: ?
Options: Eviscerator
Special Rules: Demons within 6" re-roll successful invulnerable saves.

Crusader: ?
Wargear: Power Weapon, Storm Shield.
Options:?
Special Rules: ?

Demonhost: ?
Wargear: ?
Options: ?
Special Rules: ?

Deathcult Assassin: WS? BS ? S ? T ? W ? I ? A ? Ld ? Sv 5++ ? Points
Wargear: 2 Power Weapons.
Options: ?
Special rules: ?

Servitor: ? Cheap
Wargear: Heavy Bolter or Multi-melta
Options: Up to 3 can be armed with Plasma Cannons
Special Rules: Mindlock without inquisitor

Weaponsmith: ?
Wargear: Creates weapons like oblitorater (Lascannon, multi-melta, heavy Flamer)
Options: ?
Special Rules: Roll D6 each turn and add +1 starting at second turn. Bonus applies to squad:
1) no effect.
2) +12? range to all guns.
3) Armor saves improved by one.
4) All shooting weapons become rending
5) All models gain a 5+ invuln
6) "The Works": Roll twice on the table and apply both results. No result can be taken twice.

Mystic: ?
Wargear: ?
Options: ?
Special rules: Teleport homer.

Psyker: ?
Wargear: ?
Options: ?
Special Rules: Same as blast in IG Psyker Battle Squads.

Warrior Acolyte: Basic Guardsman or stormtrooper?
Wargear: Laspistol and Chainsword
Options: Bolt Gun, Storm Bolter, Hot-shot Lasgun, Combi-weapon, Powersword or plasma pistol, storm shield, power fist, carapace armor, power armor, melta bombs
Special Rules: ?

Elites:
Techmarine: WS ? BS ? S ? T ? W ? I ? A ? Ld ? Sv ? Points ?
Wargear: ?
Options: ?
Special Rules: Psychic Mastery 1
Psychic Powers: Hammer Hand, Reconstruction

Purifier Squad: WS ? BS ? S ? T ? W ? I ? A ? Ld ? Sv ? Points ?
Wargear: ?
Options: ? Anti-horde
Special Rules: Psyker level 1
Psychic powers: Hammer Hand, Cleansing Flame


Venerable Dreadnought: WS ? BS ? S ? T ? W ? I ? A ? Ld ? Sv ? Points ?
Wargear: ?
Options: ?
Special Rules: Psyker
Psychic Power: Fortitude

Paladin Squad
Paladin Terminator: WS 5 BS 4 S 4 T 4 W 2 I 4 A 2 Ld 10 Sv 2+/4++ Points 55
Squad Size: 1 - ?
Weapons: Storm Bolter, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Nemesis Force Halberd
Options: Psychout grenades, Brotherhood Banner, Nemesis Demon Hammer, Pair of Nemesis Falchions, Nemesis Warding Stave, Psycannon, Incinerators, Psylencers, Apothecary, Banner of Brotherhood, Psybolt Ammo, Master craft any weapon +5 points.
Special Rules: Psyker Level 1
Psychic Powers: Hammer Hand, Holocaust

Callidus 145 Points
Wargear:
C'tan Phase Blade: Power weapon that causes instant death if unsaved.
Polymorphine: Choose an enemy unit: They take D6 s4 ap2 hits then place the callidus within 3" of the unit. Counts as deepstriking but DOES NOT scatter.
Neural Shredder: S8 AP1 Pistol, Template, can't hurt vehicles. Still wounds vs Ld.
Special Rules: Hit and Run, Stealth


Eversor 130 Points
Wargear: Meltabombs
Neuro Gauntlet: (Lightening Claw)
Frenzon: +d6 attacks on the turn he charges.
Executioner Pistol: S4 AP 2, 12" Pistol, Poisoned (2+)
Special Rules: Furious Charge



Vindicare 145 Points
Wargear: Blind Grenades
Exitus Rifle (AP 1 Sniper Rifle)
Exitus Pistol: Sx AP1 12" Pistol, Sniper
Options: ?
Special Rules: Stealth, Fleet, Move through cover
Dead Shot: Choose any model as target (not just unit)
Hellfire: always wounds on a 2+
Shield Breaker: Remove invulnerable save from target for rest of game (but doesn't cause a wound)
Turbo-penetrator: Inflicts 2 wounds or gets 4d6 penetration


Culexus 135 Points
Wargear: Psyk-out grenades, Psyocculum
Animus Speculum: S5 AP1 12" Assault 2, +2 shots for each psyker in 12"
Etherium: Any unit that attempts to assault the Cullexus must pass a leadership test on 3d6 (vehicles are leadership 10). They can still assault something else if they fail.



Assassin Profile: WS 8 BS 8 S 4 T 4 W 2 I 7 A 4 Ld 10 Sv 4++ Points: See temple
Wargear: ?
Special Rules: Feel No Pain, Dodge Save, Unique: Only 1 of any type allowed.

Inquisitorial Henchmen Warband

Troops:
Grey Knight Terminator Squad
Grey Knight Terminator: WS 4 BS 4 S 4 T 4 W 1 I 4 A 2 LD 9 Sv 2+/5++ 40 Points
Wargear: Storm Bolter, Nemesis Force Weapon, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades.
Options: Psybolt ammo
Special Rules: Psychic Mastery 1
Psychic Powers: Hammer Hand

Special Upgrade Character - Justicar Thawn: WS ? BS ? S ? T ? W ? I ? A ? Ld ? Sv2+/ ?++ ? Points
Wargear: ?
Options: ?
Special Rules: 4+ will be back.

Grey Knights Strike Squad (the regular GK's)
Grey Knight: WS 4 BS 4 S 4 T 4 W 1 I 4 A 1 LD 8 Sv 3+ 20 Points
Wargear: Storm Bolter, Nemesis Force Sword.
Options: Psybolts, Personal Teleporters
Special Rules: Psyker Level 1
Psychic Powers: Hammer Hand, Warp Quake.

[Transports]
Rhino
Wargear: ?
Options: ?
Special Rules: Psyker
Psychic Power: Fortitude

Razorback
Wargear: ?
Options: ?
Special Rules: Psyker
Psychic Power: Fortitude

Chimera

Fast:
StormRaven: 205 Points
Wargear: ?
Options: ?
Special Rules: Psyker
Psychic Power: Fortitude


Heavy Support:
Purgation Squad
Grey Knight:WS 4 BS 4 S 4 T 4 W 1 I 4 A 1 LD 8 Sv 3+ 20 Points
Wargear: Storm Bolter, Nemesis Force Weapon, 4x Incinerators, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades
Options: Replace Incinerators with Psycannons at +20 points each, Psilencers for +? points.
Special Rules: Do not need line of sight.

Dreadnought
Wargear: ?
Options: ?
Special Rules: Psyker
Psychic Power:Fortitude


Nemesis Dreadknight (MC): WS 5 BS ? S 7 T 7 W 4 I ? A 3 Sv 2+/4++ 130 Points
Wargear: Heavy Psycannon, Super Incinerator, 2 close combat weapons.
Options: Personal Teleporter +75 Points
Special Rules: Monsterous Creature, Deepstrike, Psychic Mastery 1
Psychic Powers: Hammer Hand, Holocaust.


Land Raider (and variants, including redeemer)
Wargear: ?
Options: ?
Special Rules: Psyker
Psychic Power: Fortitude

Pictures (from Ominous Anonymous) Note that these are all very blurry and the watermark pretty much makes the vehicles invisibile.
NOTE: Proper credit for original pictures goes to Katie Drake at Heresy Online.
Army Picture
Codex
Dreadknight

Some thoughts on the pictures:

Storm Ravens: The one on the left has some sort of rocket or missile pods instead of the usual assault cannon/multi-melta setup. Neither of them appear to have lascannon turrets or hurricane bolters.

Dreadknights: I'm going to take a stab at that being a force sword. Also, there were rumors abound of a gattling psycannon before the "super psycannon." It may be that those are the two seperate guns, with the third being the incinerator. One obviously has multiple barrels (and what might be an ejection port for spent casings) while the other has a big barrel. The remind me of a cross between the loader on Aliens and walkers from Avatar.

Land Raider: Looks like a crusader, but the water mark is smearing the "assault cannon" in the front. May be something else, or may just be the watermark.

Transport: Appears to be a rhino. I'm not seeing the sponson everyone else mentioned, just the top of the librarian's banner. However, the water mark makes it extremely difficult to tell.

Strike squads: One has those "antenna" and the other does not, so I'm venturing to say they're personal teleporters. Also, I'm noticing that most of them are carrying a bolter-like weapon. Could be psycannons/flamers/incinerators, but I'm noticing a distinct lack of close combat weapons.

Terminators: Very fuzzy, but there are a lot of them. I'm going to guess that this is a ~2500 point force for that many termies. Their weapons are very blurry, but look varied nonetheless. Possibility of mixing and matching weapons.

HQ: Definately an apothicary. I'd say there are 2 or 3 special characters in the HQ blob, and 2 terminators in the background. Makes me curious if retinues are small (minimum of 2 or so).

[Morhgoz]

kuvia:
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachmen ... 1297380462
http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachmen ... 1297380462

Ylempi on jokin walkeri koknsa puolesta. Näkyy myös alemmassa kuvassa parina kappaleena...

Edit// On Dreadknight...

[Maalis]

Huhujen mukaan codexi olisi Matt Wardin käsialaa..

[Da Big Boss]

Aika sairaan näköisiä juttujahan tuolla on, mutta onpahan hintaa. 2+ invua en tosin onnistu nielemään alas, joten suhtaudun myös muutamaan muuhun asiaan skeptisesti.

Mitään tietoa siitä, että onko Codex kovakantinen kuten uusin O&G armybookki?

[Morhgoz]

Mitään tietoa siitä, että onko Codex kovakantinen kuten uusin O&G armybookki?

Kova kantisuus taitaapi olla faban kasi edikan juttu...

[santso]

jep jep, tuskinpa tulee psyykkisiin voimiin templaattia joka removaa automaattisesti ukon kentältä.
eikä luultavasti tuu 2+ invuu varsinkaan yhdistettynä powerweaponiin varsinkaan tuohon hintaan(vrt.DE s-field 30p). ihme hypee huhut täynnä.
saadaan luultavasti vaan uus toimivampi termis armeija.

[Oberon]

Jos lukisitte ne huhut suoraan lähteestä ettekä noista tiivistelmistä, näkisitte että templaatti toimii kuin JOTWW, eli ei poista automaattisesti.

[Murhe]

Dreadknightista tuli vain mieleen, että minkä kokoisia olivatkaan knight luokan titaanit? Ilmeisesti olivat yhden hengen ohjattavia, joten voisiko tuo skaalata niihin?

[Oberon]

Turhan vähän massaa ja kuski näkyvissä, mut muuten eikös toi oo aika lähellä juu.

[Mysterous]

Dreadknightista tuli vain mieleen, että minkä kokoisia olivatkaan knight luokan titaanit? Ilmeisesti olivat yhden hengen ohjattavia, joten voisiko tuo skaalata niihin?

Tuo voisi olla hyvä vertailukohde. Eivätkös kuitenkin stompien kanssa ole pitkälti samankokoisia?

[tneva82]

Dreadknightista tuli vain mieleen, että minkä kokoisia olivatkaan knight luokan titaanit? Ilmeisesti olivat yhden hengen ohjattavia, joten voisiko tuo skaalata niihin?

Tuo voisi olla hyvä vertailukohde. Eivätkös kuitenkin stompien kanssa ole pitkälti samankokoisia?

Taitaa olla hitusen stompaa isompia.

Tosin ny puhun epic stompasta. 40k stompalla ja epic stompalla ku on yhteistä vain rotu ja nimi.

[Air Defence]

Preferred Enemy: Demons

Daemonhammer: as far as I know, this one is a Thunderhammer with Daemonbane.

Psybolts: May ignore invulnerable saves.

Warp Quake: Any deepstriking unit that lands within 12" suffers automatic mishap.

Zone of Banishment(Captain Stern only): During Stern's assault phase. All models (friend and foe, but NOT stern) within 6" make a strength test or are removed from play. Demons must re-roll successful tests.

Banisher: ?
Special Rules: Demons within 6" re-roll successful invulnerable saves.

Ymmärrän kyllä fluffisyyt, mutta tarvitseeko niitä demoneita tosiaankin rankaista oikein kaksin käsin, kun muutenkin ovat kaukana pelin juustoisimmasta kärjestä.

[Half-breed]

Ymmärrän kyllä fluffisyyt, mutta tarvitseeko niitä demoneita tosiaankin rankaista oikein kaksin käsin, kun muutenkin ovat kaukana pelin juustoisimmasta kärjestä.

Ihan samanlaiset säännöt sitä nykyisessäkin codexissa on. Tosin nykycodexissa demonit eivät koskaan kuole lopullisesti (Tuhoutuneet yksiköt kierrätetään.), niin saa nähdä saadaanko tällä kertaa tuplat, mutta ei kuittia.

[Navdi]

Ymmärrän kyllä fluffisyyt, mutta tarvitseeko niitä demoneita tosiaankin rankaista oikein kaksin käsin, kun muutenkin ovat kaukana pelin juustoisimmasta kärjestä.

Ihan samanlaiset säännöt sitä nykyisessäkin codexissa on. Tosin nykycodexissa demonit eivät koskaan kuole lopullisesti (Tuhoutuneet yksiköt kierrätetään.), niin saa nähdä saadaanko tällä kertaa tuplat, mutta ei kuittia.

Onks tässä siis kyse jostain "saavutetusta edusta ei luovuta" -casesta? On sitä ennenkin otettu pois sääntöjä mitä on edellisessä codexissa ollut.

[Air Defence]

Ymmärrän kyllä fluffisyyt, mutta tarvitseeko niitä demoneita tosiaankin rankaista oikein kaksin käsin, kun muutenkin ovat kaukana pelin juustoisimmasta kärjestä.

Ihan samanlaiset säännöt sitä nykyisessäkin codexissa on. Tosin nykycodexissa demonit eivät koskaan kuole lopullisesti (Tuhoutuneet yksiköt kierrätetään.), niin saa nähdä saadaanko tällä kertaa tuplat, mutta ei kuittia.

Nykydexi tulikin ulos silloin, kun kaaosmarsut saivat vielä käyttää kulttidemoneja kaikilla herkuilla ja demonipommi oli ihan toimiva taktiikka. Nykyisen CSM codexin generic demonit ovat kyllä käteviä, muttei niiden varaan voi mitään taktiikkaa rakentaa, saatikka nimetä. Itse demoni dexi on taas sen verta surullista jaskaa, ettei siitä sen enempää. Demoneja ei muutenkaan pelipöydillä nykyään juuri näe ja Grey Knightien uudistuksen jälkeen todennäköisesti vieläkin vähemmän.

Kierrätetyt demonit taisivat muuten palata peliin pöydän reunalta, eivätkä summonoimalla ja eivät useinkaan ehtineet enää taistoon osallistua.

[santso]

eipä niitä grey knihtejäkään pelipöydillä oo paljoa näkyny :D(siis on jotain IST lantikkaspämmiä mut ei puhtaita nihtejä).
demoneillakiin pelaa siinä missä muillaksi dexeillä, taktiikassa vaan täytyy luottaa hieman enemmän noppaan, mutta tatkiikat pitäis luoda aina sen worst case scenarion kautta.

[Maalis]

Jonkinlainen versio codexista on vissiin vuotanut jo nettiin..onkos kukaan vilkuillut tätä?

[Oberon]

Johan noi yhteenvedot melkeen käy codexista, mut katotaan nyt silti. Tutun näkönen asettelu jne, toi psyykkerisquad-systeemi toki edelleen sama kuin ennenkin (eli justicar ottaa ekan perilsin) mutta ilmeisesti ilman justicariakin voi taikoa. Tärkee pointti, jos kerran kaikilla on joku poweri käytettäväksi.

GK grandmasterilla samat statit ku SM kapteenilla, onneks on sentään "pikkasen" mehukkaammat special rulet ja wargear.

GK&GKT statit on kyl surkeet, personal teleporterit näyttää aika hyviltä (=samalta mitä huhuissa, joko huhumiehet muistaa hyvin tai sit tää pdf on kopsattu suoraan huhujen pohjalta ite).

En jaksa lukee koko pdf:ää, selailin läpitte ja veikkaan et tää on se mistä noi muutkin ammentaa huhunsa. Syy: tässä ei oo wargear-osiota. Onpahan kaikki mahollinen mitä huhumiehillä on käsissään nyt kätevästi samassa paikassa.

EDIT:
lol dreadknight, ei se ookkaan niin halpa. 130 pinnaa kahella lähisaseella, ne supermegapyssyt maksaa pisteitä <3

Inkvisiittori&henchmen-optioita pureskellessa menee hetki

EDIT2: kylläpä daemonhostit on kurjia nyt, toisaalta 10 pinnaa hintaa jepjep. 3 death cult assasinin tiimi joka ei vie slottia, chargessa 12 S4 ws5 ini6 power weapon-iskua, hintaa 45 pinnaa. Tehdäänkö kaupat? Crusaderit, mysticit, jokaero weaponsmithit nousee kivasti esiin tuolta kanssa. Inkvisiittoreilla stubborn eikä paljon hintaa, automaatti-itemeitä tosin vähennetty (kirja/pelikortit).

Siitä vaan armeijalistoja pykäämään.

EDIT4: laskin nopeesti kaikkein tylsimmän copypasten johon tarvii vähiten erilaisia figuja:
Grandmaster-peruskamat riittää
Librarian: 2 psychic poweria näköjään pitää ostaa, otetaan mind blades ja might of titan
5 GK terminaattoria: 1 warding staff, psycannon (oletan ettei niitä oikeesti saa yhtä enempää, lisäksi ne maksaa, miettisin noita muita nemesis-aseita jos tietäisin varmaksi mitä ne tekee, nemesis hammeria kaivattaisiin varmasti)
5 GK terminaattoria: 1 warding staff, psycannon
2x10 GK strike squad: 2 psycannon, razorback (nyt sitä saa! 5 dudea sisään, combat squad psycannoneilla jää pyssyttelemään)
5 GK strike squad: incinerator, personal teleporters (nää ei saa transporttia, pidetään fleikka ja loikataan kohteelle sopivalla hetkellä jostain piilosta)

Koitin pysyä erossa inkvisitiosta ja special charruista. Oisin halunnu henchmen-squadin, dreadknighit on kalliita jos haluu muuta ku MC-furioson mut sellasella vois korvata ton pienen GKPA:n.

EDIT 5: jos warp quake ei riitä pelottamaan vastustajia pois reservipelleilystä, niin Coteaz auttaa siinä vielä lisää. I've been expecting you, Coteaz&ryhmä ampuu kaikkia ketkä tulee reservistä 12" sisään->vanha mystic-efekti satasen spessulla. 75 pinnaa normi-inkvin päälle, hyvät psypowerit ja lähiskamat, re-rolli seize the initiative heittoon (myös vastustajan), vielä kun saa henchmenit ilman rajoituksia trooppiin niin namnam.

[Kharn]

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[Maalis]

Jaaha, avaruusorangit vissiin seikkailee nykyään GK:n matkassa..