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Warseer kirjoitti:Ork rumours from Vegas GT

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Ok so Phil Kelly is at the Vegas GT this year, and while getting him to sign an army book for me, I got some ork codex nuggets from him.

Speed freaks are still going to be a viable list. All boyz will be able to buy a truck so long as they do not outnumber its carrying capacity.
Clans will still be around (sort of). Depending on how to take and kit your warboss is wether you have a goff, bad moons, evil sunz, ect. based army.
Green tide armies (like my 3 maxed sluggas, and 3 maxed grots) will be "very viable"

And this last tidbit I had to bribe him for, and he didnt really tell me anything, so take what you will.

I asked about wether or not we would be getting the shokk attack gun, and/or the hop splat back, and he gave me a giant grin, and told me it would be a good year.

Happy rumor mongering.

Don't forget that Redd also confirmed that the new codex will have a weapons chart and will not have any staff photos.

@ strafed: The rumour is that the new Boyz sprues will merely be recut, not resculpted. This means they'll have the same Boyz sculpts they have now, but arranged differently on the sprue and including a bunch of extra bits which will probably include a big shoota, a burna and a rokkit launcha. Much the same as what they did with the recut Marines.

@ Blackfang and others: While the idea that every Ork vehicle can be built from the one base with a bunch of varying upgrades is cool, I think this is too problematic. Instead I think that some sort of "mutable vehicle" idea would work best for a new Ork tank entry, which would include the ability to make Looted Tanks. Wartrukks, Warbuggies and Battlewagons would all be seperate entries, but the Ork Tank entry would allow you to customise a tank so that it can represent a Guntrukk, or a looted Leman Russ/Basilisk/Whirlwind/etc. I think for simplicity transports would not be included in this; if you want to have a looted Chimera or Rhino it counts as a Wartrukk, while a looted Land Raider would have to count as a Battlewagon.

For example, the Ork Tank entry might be something like this:

Ork Tank BS 2, Armour 13/12/10
The Ork Tank must be armed with one of the following big guns:
Lobba, Kannon, Zzap Gun, Lascannon, Autocannon, Battle Cannon, Demolisher Cannon, Earthshaker Cannon, Whirlwind Launcher.
Additionally the Ork Tank may have a forward-mounted weapon chosen from the following:
Rokkit Launcha, Skorcha, Big Shoota, Lascannon.
Additionally the Ork Tank may have sponson weapons chosen from the following:
Rokkit Launchas, Skorchas, Big Shootas, Lascannons, Multimeltas, Plasma Cannons.

Using this you can make approximations of just about every non-transport lootable vehicle, while at the same time allowing the creation of Guntrukks and even approximations of some of the classic Ork tanks like Spleenrippas and what have you.

The Waaagh kirjoitti: Now that we got that out of the way, let us discuss the rumours mentioned above, I'll post a precentage behind each entry, indicating the possibility that the rumour is true (to my opinion):

1) A plastic stompa 95%
I have heard about this one a good 9 months ago. The rumours haven't died, so good chances this is for real. It will be released with the codex Escalation, formerly known as Apocalypse. It isn't sure yet if it will be a GW or a FW release though.
I'm looking forward to this release, it will make for some epic battles and it'll give the game some strategic changes. You probably can't field one in games below 2000 points though, and other races might get something similuar.

2) Plastic killer kans 50%
This is new for me, but I can imagine it being true. This will make converting a lot easier, I hope they'll make a plastic dread too, so that little bugger will be used more.

3) Plastic warboss 75%
This makes sense, seeing that it's the trend these days, beakie got it, Tyranids got it and I believe the panzee did too. Also recently GW released a plastic warboss for fantasy (not really usefull for us, because it's pretty small) so I see this happening. I'm hoping for some equiping options such as a power klaw, choppa, uge choppa and custom slugga/shoota's.

4) Plastic vehicle sprue 95%
This has been talked over for more than a year now, I would be very surprised if it isn't true. According to this rumour, every vehicle will get an extra sprue with fun little things to add to your vehicle. I'm not sure on the details, but this will make a huge difference for modelling and might attract more gamers to space orks.

5) Plastic grots 25%
I have sources saying they will come, others say they won't. I personally don't care that much, I rarely use them. But maybe if the new codex makes them more usefull, I would. For those people who will be starting orks it'll be a good thing, those of us who already use them, probably have enough already.

6) Boys redone/option sprues 10%/60%
Again I have heard people saying they will be redone, others saying they won't. I don't really find it necesarry to redo them. What most likely is true, is that boy boxes will come with an extra sprue to make a plastic nob and some extra's for the boys.

I haven't heard anything Focslain heard, but I would like to see the baneblade . Being non orky, I won't discuss them here.

Some extra things I have heard:

- boys point cost will be reduced to 6 pts, they'll be losing power of the waagh and the choppa special rule, but they'll get furious charge
Hmm interesting, cheaper boys but losing what makes them orky. I really hope this isn't true, but I think it's most likely. This way mobs will be more of a nob/power klaw delivering system. Seeing that khorne Beakies will lose their axe, I can see this happening for choppa's too.50%

- warbuggies as a troop choice
If this is true, I can see more and more trukk boys. We'll be getting a mix between speed freaks and normal orks. I'm not sure on this one, trukk boys as troop choice makes more sense. 20%

- choppa's reduce save by 1
This rumour and the first I mentioned can't both be true. Choppa's will reduce armor save by 1, so it will still have the same effect on power armor and the likes, but will have an less effect on terminator armor, but increased effect against anything else. 30%

- plastic 'ard boys
This could be true, but they better be pretty, because most people make their own. 60%

- rule change around the uge choppa
A lot of people don't agree around this rumour. It is most like it is true, but what the changes are isn't sure. Some say they just will be cheaper, others say the initiative loss will be less, others say you can use it as a normal choppa or as the current uge choppa. 70%

- nob mobs as elite
I heard this just ones, but it would be cool. 10%

- boys more custom
You could field boys more custom, something in the line of:
Choppa +2pts per model
Shoota +1pt per model
Heavy Armor +6pts per model
Frag StikkBombz + 1pt a model
Krak StikkBombz + 2pts a model
Tankbusta Bommz +3 pts a model
'Uge Choppa + 5 pts a model
This would be nice, so you can play more with your options and make mobs specific for a goal. 30%

- plastic battlewagon
There have been rumours around the orks getting their own platic tank, but I think we'll be getting this. Very exciting, I would like one 75%

Warmaster91 kirjoitti:Lol.

Verratkaapa tätä keskustelua ja tätä.

Melkoinen ero . Huomaa, kummat on suositumpia.

Mutta sanonpa, että tuommosta vastaan on melkoinen kokemus pelata. Vaikka en itse örkkejä kerääkkään...

Mer'siles kirjoitti:Taun ja eldarien aseiden loottaaminen olisi kyllä ihan kivaa, mutta monet väittävät että örkit olisivat liian tyhmiä käyttämään niitä. Kökköä, örkithän ovat varsinaisia MacGyvereitä. Tekevät vaikka metalliputkesta ja teippirullasta shootan.

Mer'siles kirjoitti:Alunperinhän örkkien piti tulla kaaosta ennen, mutta kaipa kaaos sitten kaipasi sitä päivitystä enemmän. Niiden codexi kun onkin jo niin vanha.

Ari kirjoitti: Mega armor nobit: Sopisi GW:n nykyiseen linjaan tehdä Terminaattorin kokoisia tyyppejä muovisina, lisäksi Dawn of Warissa sai Mega Armor Nobeja omana yksikkönään joten varmasti GW suorittaa luovaa lainausta. EDIT: Ja tuo yksikkö olisi pirun tyylikäs!

Morhgoz kirjoitti:

Ari kirjoitti: Mega armor nobit: Sopisi GW:n nykyiseen linjaan tehdä Terminaattorin kokoisia tyyppejä muovisina, lisäksi Dawn of Warissa sai Mega Armor Nobeja omana yksikkönään joten varmasti GW suorittaa luovaa lainausta. EDIT: Ja tuo yksikkö olisi pirun tyylikäs!

Miten niin lainausta? 2 edikassa oli mahdollisuus ottaa täysiä nob -yksiköitä...