Talos are 1-3 in a unit.
Cronos the same but can’t mix with Talos.
Kabalites are the same although PGL is as rumoured soulfright (no way of getting defensive grenades). may take a raider even though a unit is 10+.
Razorwing, may only take nightshields (which gives stealth) and is a fast choice (not heavy). Its not a vector dancer :-( Dark Lances cost 5 more points each than a disintegrators.
can a unit champion for jetbikes get or take a power axe? any Power weapon?
Only power swords and Agonisers which is AP 3, poison (4+)
Do Kaivex (Exarch) Powers still exist?
No
Did Ravagers lose Aerial Assault? Still AV11?
Yes and still AV11
Is the Haemonculus (the small/cheap one 1 - 3 choice) gone and fully replaced by the ancient?
He is gone. Ancient is in.
Are there any formations (like the Tyranid Dataslates or the Apoc book formations) in the book?
1 formation
Did the Lhamean keep her "give 2+ poison to archon" special rule?
no
Did Talos get any new movement rules?
No
Grotesques are the new hit, I think. Same stats but.... they do not blow up and they got Flesh gauntlets + ccw and Rampage. Nice!! Flesh Gauntlets: S as user, AP-, Lethal Dose, poison (4+)
Lethal Dose: 6 to wound gives ID.
Are scourge rumours true, squads of 5 can take 4 heavy weapons?
Yes.
6 fast attack slots?
In the "Realspace Raiders Detachment" can you get 6 fast choices, yes.
can other units enter via webway portal once deepstriked in?
does webway portal use same small blast template as before(really hope my webway portals get used!)
any unit the Archon/succubus/heamon that has it have joint and their transport. Thats DS without scattering.
No blast.
Transport capacity of vehicles the same?
Yes.
Can any if the HQs take a bike or sky board?
No and no.
- are there still trueborn in there and can they still take the same weapons they did in the old dex
Yes and Yes.
- are mandrakes better?
Much better, stealth, shrouded and baleblast from start. Baleblast.
- what got nerfed in terms of units
Wyches are dead no buffs, no haywire, Dodge only in Fight subphase. Incubi can’t get grenades.
- can venoms still take double splinter cannons?
Yes but can only get Grisly trophies and chain snares.... no shields. SUCKS!!
- what defenses did our vehicles get ?, with the removal of Flickerfields to everything other than venoms.
Night shields give stealth and the new detachment gives cover in the first turn.
- how much is a shadowfield now?/ who can take them
Clonefield is 4+ inv. Shadowfield is almost the same. It works until the end of the phase in which you fail the 2+ inv., only archon
- What do WWP's do now? and how many points?
gives DS without scatter, archon/succubus/ heamon can take it.
Do wyches have any chance to survive overwatch and raider explosion? or nothing has changed?
No change
Which units have access to Haywire weapons?
only wych champion, succubus, archon
Is there any change on the kabalite warrior profile and equipment?
Only in fluff, no entry.
Can an Archon have any AP2 weapon at all?
Not in melee
Which models can have a Venom blade?
Acothyst
Are combat drugs an item that HQ's can buy from a list (like a Space marine captain can buy an Auspex), or is it directly bought within the entry? Can an Archon still buy it?
No drugs for archon
Are Venoms and Raiders Fast Attacks as well as Dedicated Transports?
Yes
At the end of shooting phase, a unit that has been hit by a weapon with that rule must make a Ld test. units takes wound with no armour or cover save for each point the test is failed by. Doesn't Work on Fearless and ATSKNF.
Both PGL and TGL has that.
Does Urien still offer a S6 upgrade to Grots?
No
Stats on the wracks and grotesques? Also, Do they get FnP stock or earlier than other units?
The same... they start with FNP and...
Talos and Chronos start with FNP as well. And Chronos Spirit Probe gives DE unit within 6" +1 to FNP to a maximum of 4+
Any shooting weapon options for Archon, like Blasters, Shardcarbines etc...
Yes
Can Succubus take relics?
Yes
Is Archon armor save 5+ or 3+
5+
Do Warrior squads come with Sybarites free?
No
heard from somewhere that each of them now have flesh gauntlets, and can be equipped with liquefiers each. Any confirmation?
Confirmed!
All missiles have the blast or Large blast rule. The void bomb is large blast now, Dark scythes that the voidraven can get instead of voidlances are same as Dark Lance but 24", Blast.
Could you detail Urien for us? Pt cost, stats, special rules, war gear?
Gnarlskin, CCW, Ichor Injector, Clone Field, FNP(4+), It will not Die, Night Vision, Master of Pain, PfP, Father of pain, Casket of Flensing.
So talos moving up with cronos have 4+ fnp? Would say a unit of 2 cronos give 4+ fnp to each other?
No, it affect the chronos it self as well. So one Chronos with spitit probe has FNP 4+.
Really liking the sound of grots though. Points stayed the same on them?
Yes
Mandrakes cause fear as well. So they have: Fear, Fleet, Infiltrate, Move through cover, Night vision, PfP, Shrouded, stealth, Baleblast, CCW. A very nice unit.
Archon can buy his own Venom, and blasterborn can have venoms as well.
Finally justifying the fluff in the old codex- in the venom entry, something about the venom transporting a single passenger in STYLE. Archon in a Raider. PIMP.
Cant get a Raider, only venom.
Can archon take a gun other than the blaster and relic?
Blast pistol...
DE Archons are the true PIMPS of 40k. But no access to AP2 melee weapon. So they can’t actually kill anyone with a 2+.
Do sslyths have the bulky rule?
No, just FNP and Fleet.
What is Raider capacity?
As before
Can you take Warrior squad and IC in the same raider?
As before
What about bloodbrides - what do they bring to the normal Wyches?
As before
Who can take power lance?
No one. Only access to power swords
Do Razorwings comes with missiles?
As before
So archon with court and lhaeman will make his agoniser 2+ poison ap3?
No, Lhamaean poison doesn't affect the archon.
Scorpion, could you clarify if chronos has anything other than increasing FNP within 6"?
Nothing more. Same weapons as before. It starts with a spirit syphon and can buy spirit vortex and spirit vortex. Vortex and syphon do the same as before.
I'm getting hype here. Just a few questions - do Lhamaeans still have their 2+ poisoned CCW?
Yes
Also, is their cost the same?
10 points
Can I go with a Court full of Lhamaeans?
Yes, up to 12 of them.
Trueborn are min squad size 5 correct? Are they otherwise unchanged?
Yes, 1 point less.
Are incubi also min squad size 5?
3
Are splinter cannons more expensive for everything now? And what does the second cannon cost for the Venom?
more,same.
Do mandrakes have any non-cover-save save?
No
What does a trilance Ravager cost?
10 more than before, incl. 5 points for each lance.
so court can be made up of 12 of any model?
Yes
medusae have the ap3 s4 eye burst?
yes.
In the Wargear section there is a note that states that Venom blades are only for Acolyths but...
In the Solitaires option it reads that the solitaire can change his carbine for a blast pistol and a venom blade.
Trueborn don't get access to carbines, jetbikes have Hit & run.
Baleblast is 18"
5 points, making flat out 24"
Can Archons still take 2 blast pistols?
only one pistol
Was there any change to how many special weapons can be taken by a squad of Trueborn since the size increased from 3 to 5? (Still only 2 dark lances/splinter cannons and 4 blasters?)
No change
What exactly does the Wych special weapons do? Still trying to figure out something with the 100 wyches that I have Sad
2 Razorflails: AP5, Specialist weapon, re-roll to hit. Shardnet & Impaler: AP5, +1A, re-roll 1's to hit and wound. 2 Hydra Gauntlets: AP5, Shred, specialist weapon.
Is the Voidraven Bomber now 10/10/10 as rumored?
yes
Can any of the voidraven, razerwing, raider, ravager, venom or reavers jink and fire at full balistic skill or are they stuck snapfiring after jinking?
Only snapfiring
You mentioned that an acothyst is the only one that can use a venom blade. Can you confirm that scourges can no longer use a venom blade even though there is one that comes on their sprue?
Solarite can get it too.
You mentioned Trueborn have the same weapon options. Please confirm that they can still use shardcarbines. Other rumors have identified this as an option that was removed.
It is indeed removed.
Can you confirm how beast packs work. Can you really take 12 of anything in any combination and don't even need to bring a beast master in the pack?
Yes, that is true.
Are there any new army specific rules for any of the units besides pfp?
No.
When you take a Talos or Chronos in a group of 3 do they stay as a unit on the table or do you purchase them together and then they act independently on the board?
Is states unit size 1-3.
What does the ossifactor do? The rumor sounded to good.
…….. Fleshbane and if a non-vehicle is removed as casualty, that model's unit suffers D6 hits, Ignoring Cover, S = T of model removed and AP-.
Nice and 1 can be bought per 5 wracks just like LG.
Has the shredder changed?
Now has Shred.
I'm just wondering a few things about the Beastpacks:
Have any of the prices for the models changed? Up or Down?
Beastmaster down, Khy down, RF up, CF down.
How does the unit composition work? Similar to the 5th ed rulebook, or different?
12 models, free choice.
You mentioned that the Haem model is more like the old Haem Ancient, is it the same price?
Slightly less
Does anything change or 'speed up' the PfP table?
Haemon, Animus Vitae (need to wound with it - this actually very nice!!!) Archon in the formation. (not a very good formation)
Are the Relics usable and interesting, or crap and interesting, or neither?
Artefacts of Cruelty are mostly good I think. There can be some nasty combinations.
Is there any way to make Dark Lances better, or have they changed? I never found a Ravager particularly effective at busting tanks.
The same.
Have weapon profiles changed, especially, haywire blaster?
Some have, some have not. Haywire blasters are the same.
What are the options for Arena Champ? Just power sword and Agonizer?
power sword and agonizer
Reavers still Skilled Rider?
Yes
Any changes to reaver options and their pricings. Blaster? Caltrops? Heal-L?
Bikes and weapons all cheaper. Same options as before, allthough Clusters give D6 S6 HoW hits, all their HoW hit have rending, and Grav gives concussive.
Drugs give on a D6:
1. +1A
2. +1S
3. +1I
4. +1T
5. +1WS
6. +1Ld
warlord traits:
1. warlord and DE within 12" have Fear
2. re-roll Seize, Night Fightig reserve (INSANE GOOD!!!)
3. Warlord has Rage
4.Warlord has Hatred
5. warlord gets +1 WS
6. warlord and DE within 12" get Fearless
so lelith is trash? what was the problem with old A leage apart than i wouldnt be so mad with such a useless warlordtrait as +1WS..., srsly only Succubbi benefit from it rest is meh they alredy hit on 3+ with WS7, since the other guys with WS6 got removed...
For 15 pts she can get an Impaler allowing her to re-roll 1's to wound...
Has anything changed in reaver profiles? Every Stat the same like armor save? Unit size 3-10? Bladevane gone?
1. No
2.yes.
3. 3-12
4. Bladebane gives HoW S4, rending.
Other then webway portals deepstriking, no scatter. Once its on the table does it act like it used to, any reserve can enter pls through it? Assuming your HQ or whoever holds it has already come through?
Nope, no other use than DS without scatter.
What is the Formation in the Codex?
1 Archon, 1 Court, 1 unit Incubi, 1 ravager, 6 units of warriors, 1 unit scourges, 1 unit hellions. All units that can take a transport must do so.
If archon is alive treat the current turn as being one higher when determining PfP, the cover special rule and can re-roll warlord trait. The 2 last rules goes for the detachment as well-[/i]
What are the special rules for beast packs?
1. flocks
3W, 4 A, rending, swarms.
2. khymera
S4 T4, deamon.
3. fiends
Rage
4. Beastmasters
same but... any beastmaster can get power swords/ Agonisers. Imagine 12 of them with agonisers. Very expensive but alot of 4+ poison, AP 3 attacks.
How does the new PfP work and in what way does Haemonculus/Coronos/Wracks/Archon affect it?
turn based:
1 turn. Nothing
2. Fnp 6+
3. Fnp 5+
4. Fnp 5+, Furious charge
5. + fearless
6. + Rage
Heamon gives +1 turn for him and unit he joins, Animus Vitae +1 turn for the whole army!!!, Archon in the formation +1 turn for the whole army. And these Things are cumulative.
What the changes to hellions, if any? Did the price go down as rumored? Are the Helliarch weapon/options still the same?
Yes, champion can take PGL. hellglaive: yes, AP5. Stunclaw: yes, AP6, ID in challenges.
What about Drazhar what happened to him? Did he change?
Short answer: ye. No jumping around anymore, can only join Incubi and gives them..... +1 WS. :-( Rampage, otherwise the same.
So hellglaives no longer count as two CCW's?
No :-(
Clawed fiends used to have 4 wounds and 4 attacks.... Curious most about the wounds.
3W, 4A
I can DS 6 Scourge squads without scatter with 4 HB. My real question is can I bring 3 2 man Haemy squads then split them or just 2 HQ's?
just 2 HQ's. so only 2 of these 6 scourge units can DS without scatter and only if Heamon joins them and have WWP.
Can you please give more details about sslyth? Still 2 wounds? Armor save? Still 35 points? Attacks?
Same as before, FnP and Fleet.
Do you see any way to make wracks troops?
no.
Can I take a soul-trap on a Succubus?
No
What is the point cost for a blaster in a squad of Kabalites?
same.
Can Bloodbrides take haywire grenades for the entire squad due to them being a squad of hekatrix?
nope, only the champion can.
Are wracks the same as before? Points? Stats? Special equipment? Min squad size?
the same stats, yes. minimum size 5. ……. Acothyst can get Mindphase gauntlet, Flesh G, Scissorhand, Venom blade, Electro whip. Agoniser, Stinger Hexrifle, LG.
Hexrifle is ok now, Sniper, AP4, Precision shot gives ID. So it becomes AP2, ID when that 6 to hit is rolled.
Scorpion- what is the cost for a klaivex and did his weapons or stats change?
Incubi, Klaive and demiklaives less now, 3-10 unit size.
Pinning
One thing that strikes me is that there is not a single thing in the army that cause pinning. Pinned is liked going to ground, right? It would make sense since we can’t get assault grenades.
Can the Succubus take the Huskblade? The HB is rumored at 10 points less, confirm?
1. No, only archon
2. confirmed.
The rumor I heard was that sslyth are now 10 points less...
correct
Most armies updated to 7th lost access to pinning, even the sniper rule lost it. Is sad.
Our necrotoxin missiles did that in the old codex, right? Well its gone now.
Webway portals aren't unique?
WWP aren't unique.
Does the Cronos fnp aura thing affect only dark eldar?
Only affects DE
Are raiders/venoms etc available in the fast attack choices?
And both are fast choices as well.
Do the DE still have Night Vision?
Yes